Also using fastmail.com I have the feeling they may some time require two part authentication, hope mutt will support that. It is a paid service but not expensive. extremely reliable and they even admit when they do have problems. Tom Fowle WA6IVG On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:43:08AM -0500, Chris Nestrud wrote: > I've had good luck with Fastmail, www.fastmail.com. Two-factor is > available but not nandatory. Option of per-app passwords so if someone > gets the password you use for mutt, they can't access the other features > of your account. I'm using it successfully for sending and receiving > mail using mutt under Linux, Outlook under iOS, and the standard mail > program on iPhone. > > Chris > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Don Raikes wrote: > > So if gmail is not a viable option what are others using instead? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:22 AM > > To: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck@xxxxxxxxx>; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: command line email clients and gmail.com > > > > I wasn't able to do so without a huge amount of inconvenience. Here's the rest of that story too. I went as far as enabling two-step authentication in February of 2018. Last week I tried logging into my google account. My password was complex and 20 characters in length the last time I logged into that account successfully. Last week the password had been changed and whoever did that had it shortened to 14 characters. I ended up deleting my account. If I ever create another google account I will not use any of google's enhanced security features since all of them only provide the authorized users a huge amount of hassle and are trivial for hackers to crack. > > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:14:48 > > > From: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: command line email clients and gmail.com > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > On my archlinux system with its command line environment, I have > > > three email clients able to send mail directly to my gmail smtp server > > > at port 587. > > > > > > 1. mutt with msmtp. > > > > > > 2. alpine > > > > > > 3. edbrowse. > > > > > > All three methods work only when my google account security settings > > > have enabled something called "Allow access by less secure apps. > > > > > > Recently I have been asked by google to disable that feature for > > > security reasons, but doing so prevents my outgoing mail from being > > > accepted by smtp.gmail.com. > > > > > > Anybody else able to use gmail.com with that security feature > > > disabled, as google advises? Suggestions appreciated. > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_speakup&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=9Y8i54Ecao5MzVdHocqncpqXwRPndS5BionYcK18yLw&s=LXtrQDl9Q334IQEp_JmRIyVJ1a6O790k7yV35vnOXn0&e= > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup