Hi Greg, thanks for your comments/observations! Now it'll be up to me to "bite the bullet" and try it here. thanks much, --terry On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 07:10:23PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: --> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 01:01:07PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote: --> > 1) why did you choose the xfce desktop? --> --> Because that is the default desktop in devuan. I would have gone with --> mate, except that depends on pulseaudio, which I don't want. Playing --> with mate in a virtual machine to see if it is still useable once --> pulseaudio is disabled is on my to-do list, but I haven't gotten there --> yet. My problem with xfce is that thunar isn't totally --> accessible. That can be replaced with tuxcmd for example, but that --> still leaves me with a useless desktop, because I get no feedback when --> moving between icons. --> --> > 2) I have little experience with gui's in debian, everything has been speakup/cli. What screen review package do you use in a qt-based desktop? --> --> I don't use a qt-based desktop, xfce and mate are based on --> gtk2. However, qt applications like virtualbox do seem to be mostly --> useable with orca. --> --> > 3) why the virtualbox vm, over vmware/kvm/etc? --> --> Because that's what I started out with since the 1.4.0 release, which I believe --> was in 2006. KVM wasn't available back then as far as I recall. If it --> was, then I wasn't aware of it, only of qemu. I do remember trying --> qemu, and not liking something about it, but I don't remember what --> that was anymore. I had no reason so far to switch away from --> virtualbox, and so that's what I continue to use. I have briefly tried --> kvm just to see what it's like. As for vmware, back in 2006 it was a --> commercial product from what I recall, and wasn't open source. --> --> > 4) have you run a windows guest on the debian host? any caveats there? --> --> I haven't done so recently, but have run windows 7 a few years ago --> with no issues that I can recall. --> --> Greg --> --> --> -- --> web site: http://www.gregn.net --> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc --> skype: gregn1 --> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) --> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. --> --> -- --> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@xxxxxx --> _______________________________________________ --> Speakup mailing list --> Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 289-488-4882 ext 1 E-mail: speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup