The file keyhelp.c had a bug. I had a line out of place. You can either patch it or get a new version from davidborowski.ddns.net. To pach it, edit keyhelp.c and at line 167 you should have if (key == KEY_SPACE) { take the line above this and move it down to just after the line spk_msg_say(MSG_DONE_HELP); Also, the cursor mode switch num-pad star does tell you the speakup control 8 if you go into the now fixed help system. I didn't know that there was a laptop equivalent for that key. Guess we can all learn something new! _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup