May i ask how one finds contingency plans for your ears, your brain, and your
processing? smiles.
I am not following this debate closely, but it certainly supports my
worries about Linux as a main computing solution. If someone is going to
remove the door to functionality, or decide for me how I personally
accommodate my body differences, then they are no different than say
Microsoft.
Access is a human right in some places, not a feature.
defining that access begins and ends with the individual, which is why the
best access uses a foundation allowing for many ways in so to speak.
Going back to the corner now,
Kare
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016, John G Heim wrote:
Well, first of all, I didn't mean to say you shouldn't use a serial hardware
synth. However,IMO, you would be wise to consider contingency plans. If your
livelihood depends on that serial synth, you'd be wise to begin examining
your alternatives.
Also, I can't promise to debug the kernel code. When I said check the syslog,
I meant for you to check the syslog. If I can find the time to take a look at
it, I certainly will but I can't promise that. I suspect that what's
happening is that when speakup tries to "steal" the serial port, the return
value is no longer just null. When I last traced back the functions that
speakup was calling to steal the serial port, it was bullstuff. Speakup
called a function that did nothing -- which isn't the fault of the speakup
developers. I suspect that those functions now do something -- probably not
what we want but something.
It has probably been a year since I last posted a rant on this list about the
linux kernel developers. As I write this, I find myself getting all worked up
about it again. The one good thing about Trump running for President is that
now I have someone I find more arrogant and irritating than the linux kernel
development team.
On 02/24/2016 08:29 AM, Tony Baechler wrote:
On 2/23/2016 6:31 AM, John G Heim wrote:
> You should check the syslog. There are almost certainly messages in
> there
> reporting what is happening. I'll try to compile 4.3 kernels for ubuntu
> and
> debian over the next few days. I had planned to automate the process.
> Every
> time my ubuntu machines download a new kernel, generate a new patched
> kernel
> package. I never got around to it though. I was using a sed command to
> comment out the line that caused serial synths to not work so that
> automation was possible. Part of the problem here is that I have kind of
> given up on serial synths myself. I have been depending more and more on
> the
> combination of a braille display and software speech. It seems to me
> that
> using a hardware speech synth is going against the grain these days.
As Karen and others have pointed out, we all have our own personal speech
preferences. In my case, I have multiple reasons for wanting serial speech
to work. I find it easier to hear and understand for one thing. There are
some bugs in the DECtalk Express module which might be easily fixed, but
the last unpatched kernel I know of that actually worked was 2.6.32 which
is no longer supported. Anyway, as requested, here is the dmesg output. I
don't see anything helpful. I did the following:
service espeakup stop
rmmod speakup_soft
modprobe speakup_dectlk
rmmod speakup_dectlk
rmmod speakup
modprobe speakup_soft
espeakup
[ 11.336314] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
[ 11.336325] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[ 27.013903] releasing synth soft
[ 27.013975] unregistered /dev/softsynth
[ 32.824006] speakup: unregistering synth device /dev/synth
[ 56.630004] speakup: module is from the staging directory, the quality
is unknown, you have been warned.
[ 56.630896] input: Speakup as /devices/virtual/input/input7
[ 56.631031] initialized device: /dev/synth, node (MAJOR 10, MINOR 25)
[ 56.631055] speakup 3.1.6: initialized
[ 56.631057] synth name on entry is: dectlk
[ 56.639855] speakup_dectlk: module is from the staging directory, the
quality is unknown, you have been warned.
[ 56.640036] synth probe
[ 56.640039] Ports not available, trying to steal them
[ 56.640042] Unable to allocate port at 3f8, errno -16
[ 56.640044] Dectalk Express: not found
[ 56.640045] dectlk: device probe failed
[ 67.012005] speakup: unregistering synth device /dev/synth
[ 70.985966] speakup: module is from the staging directory, the quality
is unknown, you have been warned.
[ 70.986851] input: Speakup as /devices/virtual/input/input8
[ 70.986983] initialized device: /dev/synth, node (MAJOR 10, MINOR 25)
[ 70.987006] speakup 3.1.6: initialized
[ 70.987008] synth name on entry is: dectlk
[ 70.987055] speakup_soft: module is from the staging directory, the
quality is unknown, you have been warned.
[ 70.987193] synth probe
[ 70.987230] initialized device: /dev/softsynth, node (MAJOR 10, MINOR
26)
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