vmware workstation 12 is pretty nice, for windows vm's I recomend a windows host, however. Hyperv is very nice as well and its free, but it requires some more hefty hardware. Glenn <glennervin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Tony, > I have several Linux distros on thumb drives, but my main reason for wanting > CygWin is that if I want to access my network computers or have more power > with external drives, I wanted to be able to do so without rebooting my > system. > I really did not want to have to go to something like VmWare, but maybe I > can with Arch or Ubuntu Mate. > I mainly use the terminal in Linux, but I like the GUI for a few things, > like connecting to WIFI. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Glenn" <GlennErvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Speakup is a screen review system > for Linux." <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:57 AM > Subject: Re: CygWin in windows > > > Others have already addressed some of your questions, but since I use it on > a daily basis, I thought I would throw in my two cents. > > On 11/27/2015 2:51 PM, Glenn wrote: > > I want to have access to some of the power of Linux. > > First, it's called Cygwin. Second, it isn't Linux and you'll never have the > full power, flexibility and accessibility of Linux within any Windows > environment. They're apples and oranges. That said, Cygwin does have lots > of packages found in most Linux distros and it's a good learning > environment. It lets you run bash, compile software, etc without actually > having to install Linux, but see below. > > > I'm most familiar with Debian-based systems. > > It's developed by Red Hat, so don't expect Debian commands to work. It does > ship dpkg however, so in theory, it could be used as a base for a > Debian-like Windows environment. I don't know if it ships apt. It isn't > RPM-based. It uses tar.bz2 for packages. > > > I use Jaws, and the CygWin terminal does not automatically read the > > returned information, and I don't like routing the Jaws cursor to read the > > terminal. > > Try say all. I use both Window-Eyes and NVDA with reasonable success. NVDA > is the far better choice and has the best terminal support of any Windows > screen reader. WE is pretty good, but doesn't always read the text on the > screen and often doesn't read the last line of the display. > > > Can SpeakUp be installed into CygWin? > > > As Gregory said, no. It's not Linux and doesn't run a Linux kernel. You > would need either a virtual machine or a real Linux environment. I'm > working on a talking live CD based on Ubuntu which might interest you. It > doesn't change anything on your machine but lets you boot a fully working > Linux system with speech. > > The way I use Cygwin is probably not typical. I have only a minimal system > consisting of bash, ssh and rsync. I ssh to my remote servers and do my > work on them, so I don't need a full Cygwin environment. There are good > reasons not to install all available Cygwin packages. Cygwin ships X, KDE > and Gnome, but I don't think it ships Orca and I have no idea how accessible > it is. If you want a talking X environment which works with Orca, I would > highly recommend Ubuntu MATE. > > You can get a VPS for very cheap. Linux will almost always run faster than > the same programs in Windows. It's possible to do what I do on an almost > daily basis and ssh to the remote server or VPS, do your work and use rsync > to download anything you need. If you have lots of disk space, you can of > course install a full Cygwin environment, but don't be surprised if it runs > very slowly compared to Linux. I haven't used a full Cygwin setup for many > years, but part of why I abandoned it is because what took 10 minutes in > Cygwin took 30 seconds in Linux, without exaggeration. They are constantly > making improvements though and Cygwin is probably better now. As it > happens, I can sell a VPS which fits your needs and budget. If you're > interested, please let me know what you're looking for and the price range. > As I said, you can get them very cheaply and that still gives you the full > power of Linux without the hassle of fighting with the very difficult Cygwin > setup program. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
