I too wanted the talking Arch, and when it did not come up talking, I considered that it did not like my sound card. I'm using an Acer laptop. I also considered trying it on another computer, but when I read all there was to installing it, I lost interest. I have installed Linux with the GUI interface many times, sometimes with accessibility problems, but that aside, it went well and was easy. I think a GUI interface on the disk would be nice for even installing the CLI interface. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:06 AM Subject: Re: Why I can't recommend Arch or Gentoo OK, fine, but here's the thing. As long as most people (yes, there are exceptions) want a live desktop, I can't recommend Arch. I've had a few people tell me privately that they won't even consider Arch for exactly this reason. If it's a choice by the Arch developers, that's too bad as most people are turned off by this. I haven't seriously looked at Gentoo in about 10 years, so if they do have a live desktop image, I don't know about it. I haven't seen it on the various mirrors. If there is such an image, please send me a link and I'll evaluate it. Similarly, if there is a simple installer which actually guides you through the process like Debian or FreeBSD, I'll take a look. I like Gentoo in concept, but I can't recommend it for the masses due to the above issues. There was going to be a fork which was going to address some of these issues, but I don't know whatever became of it. On 9/21/2015 5:05 AM, Michał Zegan wrote: > The thing about no live desktop is an explicit arch decision, could even > say > it's a feature, same about gentoo, but gentoo has, or did have at some > point, a live image. > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup