Good point. I'd say perhaps that the real problem wouldn't be that
these machines have CD-ROM drives but rather that a lot of older
machines won't boot from a USB stick. My scanner machine is like that.
I have a linux machine with an ISA hardware speech synth and a SCSI
flatbed scanner attached and it won't boot from a thumb drive. I would
hate to give up that machine.
On the other hand, I think it is reasonable for the developers of
talking arch to say that they can't be all things to all people. You
will just have to use another flavor of linux.
On 09/22/2015 09:07 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Just an aside on the cd media issue.
Perhaps you have not considered that Linux is not simply a north
American effort. additionally even in North America, a person just
starting out with Linux might get their hardware second hand. for
example from any of the many freecycle groups around the globe.
Those machines will still use cds, which is why they are second hand.
You can still purchase blank cd media as well.
So do you really want to prevent a person from trying this distribution
if they are starting at the bottom based on the thinking of those who
have used it for a while?
I am simply speaking in general here. If I were making this decision, I
would keep a cd simply because there can still be an audience for it.
Just my totally from the sidelines thought.
Karen
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015, Tony Baechler wrote:
I'm not going to quote Kyle's very long reply here, but I'll address
the highlights:
1. No, I wasn't complaining. I was simply pointing out observations.
I apologize if it came across as complaining, but I tried to keep
things as unbiased as possible.
2. My live CD is meant as a rescue CD since there currently isn't a
Debian rescue CD, let alone a talking one. One can install it to a
hard drive if they wish, but that's not the purpose. As I also
mentioned but you failed to address, Debian is eventually going to get
this fixed and it will talk, so there will be no need for my CD.
3. I was not complaining about or requesting CD media. Some people
have mentioned this and older machines might not have DVD readers.
That's it. Personally, I agree with you that CD media is probably no
longer necessary.
My live CD is at the max of 700 MB now and is still missing packages
I want to add. I'm faced with the choice of freezing development or
growing to DVD media.
No, I won't join your IRC channel and no, I won't bother with the
sound card issue. It is a Sound Blaster Audigy and the issue has been
fixed in Debian, so borrow their ALSA configuration. I did read the
blog before downloading the CD image several months back. Eventually,
I'll take another look at Arch, but not for a while.
Finally, not once did I say Arch is bad or what you're doing is bad.
I have suggested Talking Arch a few times, but people weren't
interested. For the few people who only want the console for whatever
reason, Arch is a good alternative and I didn't say otherwise. I
simply pointed out why I personally can't recommend it. I look at
several issues, such as what I previously mentioned. There is no
public bug tracker specific to Talking Arch, there are only two
developers, support email didn't get answered, etc.
That is understandable given the volunteer nature of the project, but
does unfortunately mean I can't recommend it to the masses. I'm never
close-minded, so when you feel this issues have been addressed, please
post here or contact me and I'll take another look.
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