Well Kirk: Thanks for a comprehensive list. I would have 2 comments. I was in the process of trying to figure out what a current limit of cut-and-paste is? Seems its a number of words or charicters? At the time when I was experimenting, I could put many short lines in a buffer, but 58 full lines, I think I only got 35 or so? 2nd, we have something like a charicter dictionary, but when I was able to have it active, it would slow down my ssh connection. So an eventual conference will be a text chatt on IRC? And voting on items would be open to just folks who are programmers, ETC? While I am just a user, unless an average non-technical person can enjoy Speakup, then otherwise, it would be just for a small community of geeks. Another way you could conduct the voting would be, a proportional system, where a user gets a single vote, developer maybe 3 votes, and programmer 2. Amazingly enough I began this thread-and-all of us will eventually benefit. Thanks so much in advance Hart