The explanation for why I've had so little trouble may be that I am pretty much a plain debian user. All my machines have either debian stable or debiantesting. I haven't had much trouble. I haven't tried vinux or ubuntu lately but I never got orca working well when I tried them in the past. When I need a live CD, I use grml and speakup. But there is no way I'd switch to linux full time if I couldn't use orca. On May 8, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > The problem is not orca other than we need it to use the > system if we are to use the gnome GUI. > > The problem is sort of like those 35-lamp series strings > of Christmas lights. All the bulbs are in series which means > that every single last one has to have an intact filament or > none of the bulbs will light. You've got a dead string and there > is no way to tell what is wrong without checking every socket to > see where the circuit breaks. > > On that system which, in theory, should scream through > orca, I have had a sighted person tell me that the desktop shows > up on the screen. Orca may be talking away in bursts of > electrons somewhere in the system, but the audio is dead. There > are no sounds of any kind. A sighted user might not even know > the sound is dead until he or she does something that should > produce a sound. > > The actual problem in my case appears to be that live > CD's including the last Vinux distribution I tried appear to get > the sound part of the setup wrong as I have not heard so much as > a click from the sound chip on any ubuntu live CD since version > 9. > > What we have is a dead parrot, in the words of "Monty > Python." > > The sound card is not bad. If I install Debian squeeze > with speakup, it roars right along. Mplayer plays music and the > hardware is genning right along though pulseaudio is sick. > > I do have a SB16 and the next step is to get my > wonderful and patient wife to help me through the bios setup to > either kill the on-board sound chip or make it secondary so the > SB16 can be the primary audio device and then try a new live CD > to see if we get sound this time. > > I suspect that once all the hoops are jumped, orca will > work fine as the problem occurs before that stage. > > "John G. Heim" writes: >> Huh, you're the second person in this thread to say that about orca. But I >> just decided to switch to linux full time a few months ago and it was >> pretty much a breeze. I had been using that other operating system too but >> almost all the end users I support use linux (all good mathematicians do). >> So I felt I was cheating by not using linux. But I have had little to no >> trouble switching to linux with orca. I use thunderbird & firefox >> constantly. It's not quite as good as Windows/jaws but honestly, I made >> the >> transition fairly easily. >> >> >> >> I am really shocked to hear all these complaints about orca. Not to doubt >> you. It's just that it doesn't jibe with my experience at all. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >