Hello Brandon, What seems to happen is variable. Most of the time I have to work pretty hard to make it crash. The best test I have found is opening the SpeakUp help and scrolling up and down as quickly as I can. But it has crashed on occasions with less taxing stuff. So far I have compiled speakup_soft and speakup_dummy as kernel modules. Tonight I am trying compiling the speakup_soft right into the kernel. I don't really know much about kernel internals or kernel debugging but I have been reading up about the kernel debugger (kgdb). I now have an idea of connecting two Raspis together via a serial cable and running a kernel debug session to see if I can trap exactly where it is crashing. I'm also trying to get hold of a hardware synth, even just for loan to see if I can make it more stable with an external synth. As a point of interest...I am cross-compiling kernels on a Vinux virtual machine. When I first compiled a kernel I did it on the Pi and it took 13 hours. Mike On 04/05/2013 21:44, Brandon McGinty-Carroll wrote: > Are there any actions common to each crash? > E.g. an application running, a certain amount of time spent idle, an attempt to copy and paste with speakup? > I've ggot an RP here; if I can get an sd card and writer, I'll put on a kernel and give it a whirl. > > Brandon McGinty-Carroll > > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 07:29:57PM +0100, Mike Ray wrote: >> Hello Gene, >> >> Thanks for the welcome. >> >> Although I have SpeakUp running in Raspbian, there are some serious >> stability issues. Sometimes the tty I'm logged in to crashes and >> occasionally the kernel crashes, or I assume it does as once this >> happens there's no way I can tell what has happened. >> >> In getting this far I have had to look at the source quite closely >> and I noticed the changes over the last few years following some >> fundamental kernel changes. >> >> It looks to me as if a lot of the distros are making patches to the >> source and these patches don't seem to find their way back to the >> SpeakUp source repo. >> >> In an effort to solve the stability issues in the Pi kernel version >> 3.6.11 I took the SpeakUp source from kernel.org's 3.8.11 tree but >> it doesn't seem to have solved the problem. >> >> I don't know if these stability problems are specifically Raspberry >> Pi problems, possibly relating to the lower resources on the little >> machine, or whether SpeakUp is unstable in some desktop distros. >> >> Opinions and any help would be welcomed. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> On 03/05/2013 19:03, acollins at icsmail.net wrote: >>> Hello Mike! Welcome aboard! I'm not a raspberry user, but I'm glad to >>> hear you have yours up and running. You'll find most topics fair game >>> for discussion here. >>> >>> Gene Collins >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I've just joined the list. >>>> >>>> I have recently managed to get SpeakUp going for the Raspberry Pi using >>>> Raspbian. >>>> >>>> In doing so I've had to do a lot of reading about kernel versions and >>>> SpeakUp source etc. so I thought I'd join the list. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael A. Ray >>>> Analyst/Programmer >>>> South-east UK >>>> >>>> Interested in accessibility for the Raspberry Pi? >>>> Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ >>>> >>>> From where you can join our mailing list for visually impaired Pi hackers >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK Interested in accessibility on the Raspberry Pi? Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ From where you can join our mailing list for visually-impaired Pi hackers