Hello, I found the packages... It was the staging models in fussin as you said accordingly in the last message. However, the pulse audio issue seems to be affecting things. I do not know enough about pulse to disable it. I i touch /usr/bin/pulseaudio the who system breaks in terms of audio. I tried removing the alsa plugins for pulseaudio and tht didn't do the trick. There was another way I recall, but it was placing some file in your home directory, but I don't have any recollection of what file it was. It was a file that faked pulse audio running. Alonzo On 06/25/2013 09:44 PM, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209 wrote: > Hi Alonzo, > > I'm not yet running a modern version of Fedora, so I don't know > how the interaction with Pulseaudio might have changed. Janina runs > f18 with no problems. I believe that Al does also. What do you mean > when you say that Rpmfusion didn't have a tmp package? If I can help > further, call or write. Calling is faster. > >