Jason White writes: > What happens if you log in from the console and then run startx to > commence a > Gnome session? What you get when the system boots precludes much control other than through an X console. You hear the speakup kernel starting up and complaining about many things such as the state of the alsa configuration. Apparently, this is okay as sound and sound effects do run. Eventually, X starts on its own and you loose the ability to stop speakup. Speakup continues to complain about many things and then describes everything starting up until about where bluetooth starts at which point it stops talking. What should happen after that based on a few tantalizing events is that you get the orca login window but nothing has worked after that. If you log in from a ssh console and tell the system to reboot, speakup begins talking again to announce the shutdown and does so for a couple of seconds until it dies as all the running processes are killed off. From what I can tell, X takes over automatically and stays on until you log in from somewhere else and kill gdm3 at which time you can get all your speakup consoles back or you reboot or halt the system at which time speakup sings it swan's song so to speak as the system goes down.