You weren't wrong, it used to be there. I unfortunately never had much luck getting an install to complete, wen it was. Makes me wonder if the grml2usb option still works as it should? Take care. On 1/21/2012 12:27 AM, Robert cole wrote: > Hello, Justin. > > You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is a > way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to do > so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only > straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian > system using grml-debootstrap. > > I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is > installed does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not > sure. If I can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual > machine and see what happens. > > I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry > about that. > > On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >> Hi there >> >> Well I tried >> >> grml2hd >> >> and it said that the command was not recognized. >> >> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years >> though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples >> did in 2008. >> >> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure >> out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd: >> >> modprobe speakup_soft >> espeakup >> >> But no beans. >> >> It does not recognize the command espeakup. >> >> Regards >> Justin Harford >> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote: >> >>> Hello, Justin. >>> >>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not >>> have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox. >>> >>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>>> gmrl or grml? >>>> >>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work >>>> for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. >>>> Maybe I didn't read it right. >>>> >>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap >>>> >>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be? >>>> >>>> Justin >>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote: >>>> >>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me... >>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of >>>>> the brand >>>>> of. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca >>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] >>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM >>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>> >>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that >>>>> working, so good >>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but >>>>> that's kind >>>>> of a pain. >>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the >>>>>> jingle and >>>>>> typed >>>>>> >>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>> followed by >>>>>> espeakup >>>>>> >>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but >>>>>> it had >>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just >>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc. >>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive >>>>>> partition. In >>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Justin Harford >>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kerry, >>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing >>>>>>> came out >>>>>>> when navigating with those keys. >>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak. >>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net> >>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for >>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> espeakup >>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml >>>>>>> quickstart wizard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1 >>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there >>>>>>>> somewhere. >>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and >>>>>>> characters m , >>>>>>> and . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed. >>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is >>>>>>> documentation >>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, Kerry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote: >>>>>>>> Kerry, >>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB >>>>>>>> installer and >>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive. >>>>>>>> I ran: >>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup >>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I >>>>>>>> find a way >>>>> of >>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen. >>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped. >>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I >>>>> upgraded >>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough. >>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better? >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net> >>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for >>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are >>>>>>>> gone. >>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in >>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>>>> espeakup >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You should get speech. >>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far >>>>>>>> as I can >>>>>>>> tell and you can still do >>>>>>>> <tab> ssh=password >>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, kerry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse >>>>>>>>> me. I >>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and >>>>>>>>> noticed >>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no >>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list >>>>>>>>> of boot >>>>>>>>> options. >>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram >>>>>>>>> and have >>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional >>>>>>>>> programmes >>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, >>>>> instead >>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth. >>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is >>>>>>>>> possible >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Marcel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Take care, >>>>> Ty >>>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net >>>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine >>>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my toaster. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup