Well, John, when I boot, first thing DecTalk says is, "command error in command. In reality, as I've been pointing out here for a long time, while arrowing around in text, the pitch, rate, and volume drop all at once. James from Axsol Solutions is willing to examine a log of commands sent by speakup, but since he is not really familliar with Linux, we would need to figure out how to begin that log. Also, now, seemingly no matter what values we set caps_star and stop, cannot get pitch increase on capitolization. Thanks in advance for any-and-all suggestions. Hart