like speakupmodified.org only hardware are supported or?? covici at ccs.covici.com skrev 2012-12-12 09:10: > Two things here, you can usually get access to a serial port on most > even desktop motherboards -- they just don't bring out the port to the > back, but the header is there on the mb. You can get a cable and > bracket to bring out the serial port to the rear of the machine in most > cases. > > Also, if you are willing to compile your own kernel, you can have > hardware speech by a one line patch to speakup, even in recent kernels. > > Tony Baechler <tony at baechler.net> wrote: > >> Let me throw in my two cents here. I just had a brand new server >> built in August from scratch. One of my primary requirements was a >> serial port. Yes, I had no problem finding one. The trick seems to be >> to look for a server motherboard. I doubt if most assembly line >> desktops will come with them anymore because they aren't usually >> necessary, but from poking around on various sites while researching, >> there are still plenty of uses for serial ports in servers. So, to >> answer part of your question, I don't think onboard serial ports are >> going away in the immediate future. They will continue to be harder >> to find, but there are still plenty of old devices out there in the >> enterprise that need them. >> >> To answer your second question, Debian Squeeze and the Squeeze live CD >> still support hardware speech. They use kernel 2.6.32 and I was able >> to do a fresh install with my Trippletalk. I had to spend many hours >> using the live CD to try to recover my files from a damaged hard >> drive. I mostly did this with ssh, but I was still able to load the >> Speakup modules from the CD and I had speech at the console. For the >> curious, just burn and boot the live CD as normal. Press Enter when >> it spins down and wait for it to boot. You won't get any beep or >> other feedback. After about 30 seconds, run "sudo bash" to get to a >> shell. Load the Speakup modules as normal. >> >> To get to the subject of your message, it ultimately comes down to the >> kernel developers. There are still some USB synthesizers out there, >> although software speech is now the popular trend. I see very little >> practical need for hardware speech in the near future, but I wish it >> was still available in Wheezy. I upgraded to Wheezy and kernel 3.2 >> and lost my hardware speech. I kept the 2.6.32 kernel to fall back on >> if necessary, but that isn't a perfect solution and doesn't help with >> the 3.2 initrd. I don't see a practical way to get software speech in >> an initrd just due to the overhead of sound drivers and ESpeak. >> Wheezy does have software speech built into the installer and I can >> verify that it works. I guess the ultimate advantage in ditching >> hardware speech is that there are a lot more desktops with speakers >> and supported sound devices than there are with serial ports, so >> anyone can plug in a USB stick and have a talking Linux with minimal >> hassle. In the end, that's probably more important, as much as I >> really don't like giving up my good old hardware synthesizers. It >> seems that most Windows users use software speech now as well. >> >> In conclusion, if you're really determined to have hardware speech on >> a new box, it can be done with time and effort. Then again, you can >> run DOS on most boxes too if you really want. It's just a matter of >> time before the kernels change and you'll be stuck with software >> speech one way or the other. Eventually, Squeeze won't be supported >> and you won't have the upgrade path available to Wheezy as you do now. >> For now, you can install Squeeze, upgrade to Wheezy and make sure to >> not install the 3.2 kernel. >> >> On 12/11/2012 12:55 PM, Arthur Pirika wrote: >>> I think the subject pretty much speaks for itself. With serial synths, and >>> especially serial ports getting harder to find, with the only serials synths >>> still being made new are the venerable doubletalks, should work be ramped up >>> on getting software speech, somehow at kernel level? I know there was a >>> project working on this, but not much has been done on it for a while. >>> Related to this, I assume it's still possible to build speakup into the >>> kernel, although most distributions package speakup as modules, thereby >>> allowing messages from the moment of powerup? >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
