Hi Michael: I am afraid at this point I have more questions than answers, but if you don't mind answerring some of them maybe we can get closer to the problem You said you have more than one computer displaying the same issue? Did this problem just show up after a routine upgrade? are the speakup modules from the same kernel package? I am not familiar with how arch handles their kernel images and modules so that's why I'm asking. How do you load the modules and typically when, IE from /etc/modules at boot or by hand later etc. Are you using standard keymaps for the kernel? Do you modprobe the speakup_driver or speakup and then the synth module? What happens when you do it the other way? Nobody I know of is seeing the exact same problem you report so it should be a matter of finding the difference between your procedure/set-up and other peoples configurations. There may very well be a bug but isolating what is causing it is the only way I can think to hunt down where it is. Kirk On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Michael Whapples wrote: > Hello, > Some time ago I wrote a message saying that speakup fails to load on my computers. As no solution to the problem was found then, I decided to stop keep trying speakup, however recently I have been getting more and more dissatisfied with Orca for basic tasks (eg. just reading and writing email because of the bugs with thunderbird and no real alternative which will work well with orca) I feel it might be worth getting back to text based applications if I am to stick with Linux. As others have said that speakup just works fine for them, I decided to try speakup again but it still fails to load like it was before (currently my ArchLinux system is running kernel 3.1.1). > > Is there any chance of this issue being solved? I ask that as previously I had little in the way of response. I accept that it may be difficult for it to be tracked down if I am the only one encountering the issue, however I never even received help with debugging to get information which may be helpful for others to fix the problem. Previously I did post the kernel log messages associated with the problem (which seems to be in the main speakup module) but this is about the limit of my knowledge of where to find debug information from the kernel. > > Michael Whapples > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061