Well, Martin, wouldn't we practicly consider GRML as an Oralux replacement? Both of those certainly have atvantages. I think GRML supports Speakup--and-Oralux has its own speech engines which mainly worked with YASR. And Martin, little did I know til we tried upgrading to 2.6.38 or so, but my DecTalk USB would not work until we went back to 32. Hart