Great news, Chris, a real milestone. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 05:04:14PM +0000, Christopher Brannon wrote: > When it is time for you to upgrade to version 2.6.37, you > should first remove the old speakup package (pacman -R speakup). > Reboot, and you should be up and running, without issues. To clarify, where in the following sequence would the remove step be added to the usual system upgrade procedure? 1. pacman -Sy 2. pacman -Su 3. telenit 0 Would you add it between steps 1 and 2, or between steps 2 and 3? I'm wondering for instance if I were to remove speakup between steps 1 and 2, would I lose speech output while step 2 is esecuting? Chuck -- Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1 at jabber.org