Thanks, that solves the specific issue. I still wonder if there is more which can be done to make vim work better, eg. using j and k (I can imagine they actually are quicker to use than cursor keys when you are used to them) speakup doesn't speak the new line you navigate to unless the screen is scrolling. Is this as good as speech output gets with vim? Might it be worth me giving emacs (may be with emacspeak) more time? Michael Whapples On -10/01/37 20:59, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Michael Whapples, le Mon 14 Feb 2011 09:10:39 +0000, a ?crit : >> The one problem I notice most is that when I go into insert mode as I >> type speakup seems to read from the status line rather than the >> characters typed. Also related, when using j and k to move lines speakup >> reads the status line as well rather than the line being moved to. > See http://brl.thefreecat.org/wiki/vi to fix these. > > Samuel >