John, thanks for the info in this and your earlier message. Maybe I'll try those commands with the latest Fedora live CD, adding or modifying as needed to deal with Orca rather than Speakup--if I can get to a command prompt. My experience is that the GRML folks on the whole have been leaders in accessibility for us. GRML helped me a lot from time to time. More to the point, my impression is that my sound card problem is a general Linux thing in the past year plus, not particular to GRML or any other distro I've played with. The Vinux folks at least tell you how to deal with the problem while using the live CD. Chris Brannon's Arch CD just takes care of the problem, it seems, and tells you how to keep your sound after installation, which I don't think the Vinux instructions do. (Yes, I did write to them about that, after using that step in the Arch Linux for the blind instructions to get my speech back after booting up from the hard drive.) Anyway, thanks again. Al -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 10:06 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: testing grml The grml developers removed sound at one point. I'm not sure if any official release came without sound support but they were going to drop sound because they didn't consider it crucial for rescuing machines. They just forgot that blind people need sound. The intended use for grml is to allow systems admins to rescue down machines so they are trying to strip out anything not necessary for that. Anyway, like I said in another message, they put sound back and the fix for the muted sound card is already in the very latest download. Now if we could only get VMWare to put sound & speakup in their esx and esxi kernels, then we'd really have something. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: RE: testing grml >I seem to remember trying that and getting nothing, but it's worth another > shot to see if it's my memory that's screwed. > > The more useful question is this: why should a sound card that used to > work > fine booting up GRML (and Vinux, for that matter) have become muted by > default something over a year ago? I tried to find out via Google but > failed. > > Al > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Kitty Litter > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:07 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: testing grml > > If you are at the prompt, what is so hard about entering an amixer > command? > or starting grml and connecting with ssh? Its worth trying at least and > then > you can tell them your results. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
