I just finished rebooting into kernel 3.0 on my arch system, and so far everything works fine, in particular it came up with sound working, and speakup with espeakup and espeak as well. I had to recompile and reinstall ttyclicks and acsint, but that went without a hitch too. Now if only I had my edbrowse back with the js library that gnome-shell requires, I would be in hog heaven. But the perl edbrowse runs fine on the new configuration. Very nice indeed. Chuck -- Chuck in Hudson. My website is hallenbeck.ftml.net, and my Jabber ID is chuckh1 at jabber.org ---------------------- A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard.