A friend verified orca comes up on Vinux 3.0 but it only does so silently. The strange thing is that on the identical hardware loading Vinux-2.1-cli-max comes up talking just fine. The sound card is an intel i8210 built onto the motherboard. I have a diamond sound card I think might install into the computer though I have no idea what if anything Vinux is likely to do with that. Could it be Vinux switched from alsa to pulse audio and while the sound card was supported by alsa is not supported by pulse audio? I've got good md5sums on the disks I've downloaded too, so that's not an issue here either.