-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Greg. On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 11:07:48PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Igor and all, > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 09:32:34PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote: > > I am assuming that if you are > > using UML to virtualize Linux guests on Linux hosts, that as far as the > > installers go, they need to have some sort of remote installation functionality, > > SSH or otherwise? > > With uml, you can't just take an iso image, and do an install like you > would with physical hardware, or in something like virtualbox. When > installing debian inside a uml machine, I used rootstrap, which could > be modified for other distros according to the rootstrap docs. I did > once install slackware inside a uml, but I think it was something like > 6 years ago or so. I do remember that it took me quite a few hours, > and some hit and miss trials before I got the installer to install > into a uml machine all the way through to the end. That's all I can > recall though, given how long ago it was, and because I played with it > only one time, but did manage to get slackware installed into a uml > like I said, from what I can recall. To answer your question, > rootstrap gets input from, and writes output to your controlling > terminal, so you can use it over ssh, or in front of a physical > keyboard if you'd like. I personally like to deal with an installed > system inside of a uml machine via ssh, though there are ways to map > uml consoles to your own physical system's consoles, and not only. > Interesting, I'll have to check that out. It sounds like it could come in handy for doing textmode stuff. > > > What I am basically going for is a solution where I can grab > > pretty much any distro that has a textmode installer i.e., Centos, Debian, Arch, > > etc, get it installed, and render it bootable so I could play with > > it. > > I would personally use virtualbox under a windows host for such a > scenario. In case someone is wondering why I'd do it under a windows > host, there are a couple of reasons. First, the debian packages for > virtualbox require x. You could just use the self-extracting version, > provided you agree to the PUEL license, to get a headless system > without needing x, but going that route means the software isn't > installed through your distro's package management, and getting it off > later could be a pain. The final reason is that under windows, NVDA > does a good job dealing with the GUI, as I already mentioned. In fact, > whenever I want to use the GUI to do something, rather than the > command line, I shutdown my copy of wineyes, and bring up nvda. There > is no such option for now under orca as far as I know, you're limited > to using VBoxManage for everything, like it or not. > AS far as I know, the only thing VBoxManage cannot do that the GUI can is map alternate host keys, and even then I figured out that VBoxSDL can arbitrarily do it via VBoxSDL --detecthostkey && VBoxSDL --hostkey <above values>. > > That's just my own preference, and I do realize others may choose to > do things differently for their own probably as good reasons. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAku+xDQACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyAjngCfetTmmsIx3ehhr0yWytsS84Z4 > cggAoJz05d/mSIkyp/DomWNSWN20fVR5 > =Dmt/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > - -- Igor -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBS79llKe2pgKIdGq4AQqMRw/9G0MK/Xe21RHv0VU23kACN9sJ0xm8hd/2 CS+69AtoEw3tvG1k7d+AdKnf6WS0QlTw6kbkcj/puLOaBoWPWBNbB9PHzMZmiq2/ 1b1OzT9XJTYBal7bMBEDoQJaZj3NJI4frgTPbyIlLARvsrpCfCF+e2bB13Ma588L u5vv7PXXzKQ8CNofPPLCgKJ4xiSuKU7gGILbRO0hBOUSKfRA2KIqtyP8YeKzbZSU x8GvHD+2zo1CEp02ScZCACpnlYgLRjuhoonyVSAfzhe/qN64ZPVbNxrW61DPIHcn kPz+dIke723Usve1q2VFWyR0uAgYe8ZeBdSdZtS4pSg3GvpIA000DmE+HLOJFvHN +M1jwNudo6tXiaWWawKuRGwpmv67KIaxsupoPHoR4VU+kKiiOx8A7V9b2Yjz5ADx r24iKproZWKz0aVqKqWHFDcDUGj8akeLzveTVMip0c6tikbZQHkY4EL5Kks2nqlQ FLVfhPLlPOQ9pUQ3HY1ZmKUeQK1aidMW3I6LvX3S5MJDBnTT+ZKU4wStg+qALUp6 4uDKxJrPVvLoBrHXolG2SdbCHUf0miRB3NM2p/u60negQhbOreR4cgPy+/jS3Jw5 e7Pg/cU8f/gWw8FY7IERVN7Hc8uV7l2O79wBzdZprp9X2qDXvvb0hAr1NUgvbFhz 9Y/0H1LcUFg= =mc0J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.