Daniel, Glad they work. If you are building other scripts, you might consider cannibalizing the parts of those scripts you really need. I can't say about the URL you mentioned. The one I have been using is the mirror by William Hubbs, which is: git://hubbs.homedns.org/speakup.git Good luck Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -------- In a consumer society there are inevitably two kinds of slaves: the prisoners of addiction and the prisoners of envy.