Hi again, For what it's worth, I will add that I am using vanilla kernel version 2.6.25.4 from ftp.kernel.org, not the Debian source tree. Speakup patched perfectly, first time. I patched speakup and the litetalk driver into the kernel, and made the softsynth a module. Have not yet played with the softsynth/switching synths in this version. the litetalk came up talking nicely. --terry -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 705-812-3744 E-mail: terry at wasaga.homeip.net Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm