Darragh, I'm unsure what version of Suse we are going to be using, but I will guess suse enterprise. Does speakup/ssh still hold true for use enterprise? Does speakup come precompiled into suse? If you would, and i know this is a lot to answer, but can you give me a rundown of what I will have to do in order to start installing. I mean, boot commands, key presses, etc. I'm probably just going to tell my teacher I will need another machine to do this on. In real life, this will be on a real box, not vmware, which is my biggest nightmare for next year. I've never really took a liking to Novell anyway because of its techniques and layout. I find it extremely complex and confusing. I am going to be taking a Novell OES exam on Friday and that course wasn't pleasant to do. I do think Novell needs to use these other foundations and projects as mentors for accessibility but I can't make water into wine, so my guess is that I will not be seeing accessibility soon. Can you perhaps give me a little insight on what in the world blinux is all about. Should I just give up on even trying to learn or use it? I've written 2 emails to the blinux list, and have not even once goten a response you can google my emails and you will find that I have no gotten any responses. However, I think my tech instructor would benefit from this information, since you would know more than I have, which these issues. If I may ask, why did you choose Novell as a place to be hired? Thanks for all the help you can give, and I will be in touch with him. On May 26, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Darragh wrote: > Cody, > > The only way you'll be able to do an independent installation of > OpenSuSE, Sles or Sled is via SSH. > > When you get OpenSuSE installed, You'll struggle against the > accessibility of YaST, the system tool and package manager and even > in Gnome, you'll find the weirdest and most stupid bugs because > although they have some great developers in ovell, they just don't > have the resources for Accessibility. However, one good thing they > have done is employe one person to work on accessibility full time. > Marco Scambrax is his name and he's a very intelligent developer. > He's unfortunately fighting against the rest of the company so his > efferts do not reflect the end result. > > There are two versions of YaST. The GTK+ and the NGurses versions. > Speakup will work to a reasonable degree in the text based version > but it's not great. Mainly because there are a lot of different > controls for it to handle. > > In the graphical version, they've really come on in leaps and bounds > over the last few years thanks to the GTK+ version released in 10.3 > however they've a very long way to come. The GTK+ version was not > tested well with accessibility so I've ofund dozens of errors in it > that are all reported in bugzilla. Some of these have been fixed > and distributed to 10.3 via online update however a lot have been > pushed forward to 11. > > Speaking of Eleven, OpenSuSE has a lot to live up to so one of the > first things I'll do is run it through it's paces but although I'm > optimistic, in reality, I know that there will still be a lot of > problems. > > > Sorry I cant be more positive. > > > > Darragh > www.digitaldarragh.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup- >> bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst >> Sent: 26 May 2008 19:16 >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> Subject: installation of suse linux >> >> Hello list, >> >> Next year I am going to be using suse for a Linux course, towards >> the second part of the ear. I have no other way of accessing the >> install, hwoever when a friend booted the first cd of the cd set he >> had seen some text scroll by that looked as if they were loading >> braille modules. >> >> I have read about blinux, however the writings were old, and when >> trying to follow the instructions, they did not work. My only option >> is speakup, and a BNS. Is there a way that speakup can be included >> relatively soon so that I can do this course? This would not be just >> for me, but anyone wishing to install a professional grade OS in the >> field. This would greatly enhace accessibility for these individuals. >> >> Please write back to me on or off list, describing what I can do >> otherwise if this is not possible. >> >> Cody >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
