By the way I'd expect less support than you get with ttsynth if you go with voxin *grin*. Before I baut Voxin I sent an email asking if there was any differences between ttsynth and voxin besides the name and the price and I got a email back with a single line saying I should ask on the speakup list *lol*. I guess when something is $5 you shouldn't expect people to really put their hearts in to selling it to you but I don't think it would have taken long to send a message back with a couple of differences between the two. Any how in case you want to know the main differenses between voxin and ttsynth are voxin came in a tar file with an install script that installed the files stored in a incrypted image and included debian and ubuntu .deb packages for installing the speech-dispatcher module and gnome speech drivers but they were already out of date by the time I had gotten them. Voxin did not come with the libs and header files from the IBMTTS SDK included which are needed for installing the ttsynth-say, spk-connect-ttsynth and the gnome speech driver so I had to download and install them manualy. ttsynth comes in boath rpm and deb files, includes the files from the SDK needed for compiling ttsynth-say spk-connect-ttsynth and the gnome speech driver and the install files wern't incrypted so you can use alien just to convert and install on slackware. *grin* that did not take long to write at all. I went ahead and got voxin anyway as I guessed that it would be the same product rebranded and thought it would install better beeing in a tar ball rather than ttsynth's rpm and deb packages. I was quite rong how ever I didn't know that the install files were stored in an incrypted image that was mounted using the install script and I didn't know that it would be missing the SDK which I think should have been included in with the voxin package instead of a bunch of outdated binarys stored in debian packages. I was able to make voxin work with slackware after a while but I'd say that ttsynth had the better packages and I should have payed the extra $35 to get it as it would have saved me lots of trouble. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@xxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: Re: IBMTTS on slackware >I am happy enough recompiling the kernel, but I have just checked the > slackware 12.1 configuration and it appears this is already done, > cryptoloop is a module and aes options seem to be compiled in. > > I think my next step is to contact voxin and get a copy. > > Michael Whapples > On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 11:39 -0400, Alex Snow wrote: >> Voxin requires a kernel recompile to build the cryptoloop and aes >> modules. >> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Michael Whapples >> wrote: >> > Good to hear that it is possible. Can I ask why you say voxin will be >> > more of a problem? Considering the significant difference in price I >> > would prefer to get voxin if possible. Its the high price of TTSynth >> > which had made me question so much whether it would be worth the money, >> > the question wasn't so high for voxin until you said that it might be >> > more difficult on slackware. Might it be less painful if I were to use >> > GRML for certain parts of voxin's install? >> > >> > I may discuss things with the voxin people to see if I could get them >> > to >> > help me sort out a slackware version of voxin. >> > >> > Michael Whapples >> > On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 18:01 -0400, Nick Stockton wrote: >> > > I know it's doable because I helped a friend set up their copy of >> > > ttsynth on >> > > their slackware box a while back. >> > > I forget if it was slackware version 11 or 12 but I think the process >> > > would >> > > be the same for eather one. >> > > I've not ever seen any instructions on the speakup list on how to do >> > > it so >> > > I'll write down what I did here. >> > > Lucky for you I saved the commands I enterd to a text file so I'd >> > > know how >> > > it was done although I'm using voxin which I got for $5 and am >> > > running it >> > > under debian. >> > > Note: this is for ttsynth under slackware. Voxin would be quite alot >> > > harder >> > > to get working under slackware so you better get ttsynth. >> > > I've also prepended the commands with '$ ' in case my email client >> > > tries to >> > > wrap commands to the next line. So you'll be able to see where each >> > > line >> > > begins. >> > > You will need to run all the commands as root. You also need to have >> > > alien >> > > installed. >> > > If you don't want to find, download, compile and install alien and >> > > all the >> > > dependencies from source to your copy of slackware then you might >> > > want to >> > > download GRML and use it only to run the alien commands. >> > > -------------------- >> > > $ wget >> > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-27_i386.deb >> > > $ alien -t -c -k libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-27_i386.deb >> > > $ installpkg libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2-2.95.4.tgz >> > > $ ldconfig >> > > $ alien -t -c -k ttsynthcore-1.0-i386.deb >> > > $ installpkg ttsynthcore-1.0.tgz >> > > $ ln -s /opt/IBM/ibmtts/lib/enu50.so /usr/lib/enu50.so >> > > $ ln -s /opt/IBM/ibmtts/lib/enumfilt.so /usr/lib/enumfilt.so >> > > $ ln -s /opt/IBM/ibmtts/lib/ssmlfilter.so /usr/lib/ssmlfilter.so >> > > $ cp /opt/IBM/ibmtts/inc/* /usr/include/ >> > > $ ldconfig >> > > $ I know it's doable because I helped a friend set up their copy of >> > > ttsynth >> > > on their slackware box. >> > > I forget if it was slackware version 11 or 12 but I think the process >> > > would >> > > be the same for eather one. >> > > I've not ever seen any instructions on the speakup list on how to do >> > > it so >> > > I'll write down what I did here. >> > > Lucky for you I saved the commands I enterd to a text file so I'd >> > > know how >> > > it was done although I'm using voxin which I got for $5 and am >> > > running it >> > > under debian. >> > > Note: this is for ttsynth under slackware. Voxin would be quite alot >> > > harder >> > > to get working under slackware so you better get ttsynth. >> > > I've also prepended the commands with '$ ' in case my email client >> > > tries to >> > > wrap commands to the next line. So you'll be able to see where each >> > > line >> > > begins. >> > > You will need to run all the commands as root. You also need to have >> > > alien >> > > installed. >> > > If you don't want to find, download, compile and install alien and >> > > all the >> > > dependencies from source to your copy of slackware then you might >> > > want to >> > > download GRML and use it to run the alien commands. >> > > -------------------- >> > > $ wget >> > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-27_i386.deb >> > > $ alien -t -c -k libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-27_i386.deb >> > > $ installpkg libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2-2.95.4.tgz >> > > $ ldconfig >> > > $ alien -t -c -k ttsynthcore-1.0-i386.deb >> > > $ installpkg ttsynthcore-1.0.tgz >> > > $ ln -s /opt/IBM/ibmtts/lib/enu50.so /usr/lib/enu50.so >> > > $ ln -s /opt/IBM/ibmtts/lib/enumfilt.so /usr/lib/enumfilt.so >> > > $ ln -s /opt/IBM/ibmtts/lib/ssmlfilter.so /usr/lib/ssmlfilter.so >> > > $ cp /opt/IBM/ibmtts/inc/* /usr/include/ >> > > $ ldconfig >> > > $ mknod /dev/softsynth c 10 26 >> > > -------------------- >> > > Hope this helps. >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples at aim.com> >> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:33 PM >> > > Subject: IBMTTS on slackware >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello, >> > > > I know this has come up before, but I can't remember any actual >> > > > final >> > > > conclusion. >> > > > >> > > > Whilst I thought espeak was fast enough, I found I had to use a >> > > > windows >> > > > machine last week, and it reminded me how I do actually use >> > > > eloquence in >> > > > windows faster than I have espeak. This has got me thinking whether >> > > > I >> > > > should get IBMTTS for linux, but I have a few questions. >> > > > >> > > > I know that IBMTTS requires an old compatibility library, which I >> > > > am >> > > > unsure is provided in slackware. So how could I go about trying to >> > > > get >> > > > this library? Does anyone know of a suitable slackware package for >> > > > it? >> > > > If not how might I go about providing this myself from source (I >> > > > had a >> > > > look around for the source code I might need, but all libstdc++ >> > > > seems to >> > > > have numbers such as 6.0.x etc much highrt than what the TTSynth >> > > > site >> > > > suggests, 2.9.6 or 2.9.5). Could it be possible to use a package >> > > > from a >> > > > different distribution, eg. I remember back in the days when I used >> > > > trplayer, I could use rpm2tgz to convert the realplayer 8 package >> > > > into a >> > > > slackware package and it worked fine, but I suspect that for >> > > > libstdc++ >> > > > compatibility libraries things may not be so simple. >> > > > >> > > > This brings me on to another question, whether to use voxin or >> > > > ttsynth? >> > > > The ttsynth website says there won't be any support provided, so I >> > > > guess >> > > > this means if I buy ttsynth and can't get it working then I am on >> > > > my own >> > > > and may have wasted money on it. Might things be better with voxin, >> > > > their website says that voxin includes the libstdc++ compatibility >> > > > library (I guess for debian or ubuntu as those are the distros >> > > > mentioned). >> > > > >> > > > Alternatively I am wondering whether it would be best save the >> > > > money and >> > > > stick with espeak as it is good and works, where as ibmtts sounds >> > > > like I >> > > > may hit all sorts of compatibility issues and potentially have no >> > > > support from the seller. >> > > > >> > > > Michael Whapples >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Speakup mailing list >> > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
