As for field pass, it is better. Also, they play some kind of irritating music during commercials. Yes, I can do field pass on the Mac and windows and sirius but I keep watching for it to work on linux. I finally dug out a realplayer for ppc and it appeared to install and shows up in the Applications menu. But when I tried game links it showed the title of the game and said "inaccessible" and when I tried a .m3u and a .ram file they didn't play though I didn't get o errors--well, it said something about "grayed out" on the ram file. However, when I added some gstreamer plugins, totem picked up the m3u and ram file. But still no go with nfl. I do have to say that I am impressed with Orca's progress although I haven't been very impressed with the progress of gui screenreaders for linux up till now. I can finally really navigate iceweasel and get some results: listening to a church service and radio stations and even accessing my online banking. There is a project for a silverlight equivalent which might help with mlb, but you have to compile the media codecs (Moonlight) and I can' find some of what's listed in debian. I also find I'm a bit handicapped because I'm using ppc; for instance, there's no adobe flash player for linux ppc and live365 keeps sending me to the linux player installation page for the non-ppc version. But the only Intel machine I have that could be commandeered for linux is being used for something else right now. However, I do overall see improvement. Is there a lot of difference between iceweasel and firefox? I've made attempts to install firefox but failed so right now I'm just using iceweasel. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."