I have no problem with trying to work on a speakup-enabled ppc kernel. My only problem is that my system boots with yaboot, which isn't accessible in the sense that I can't tell when it loads. that's not ordinarily a big problem; the problem is that if i have a regular kernel and an experimental kernel that's speakup-enabled, I don't think I'm going to be able to tell when grub loads so I can arrow down to the kernel I want. I could just keep changing the default kernel in menu.lst but if I ever get stuck in a non-loading kernel I might not be able to get back to the menu.lst file to change the default back. If I can solve this problem, I might consider working on a speakup kernel compile. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."