First I tried writing you directly, but received a 550 error, host unknown hhs48.com. So here are the 20-lines I wrote-and certainly any other viewpoints on editing audio are quite welcome Hi Chuck: Thanks so much, I grabbed vsound--and edited what you sent to just the script portion. By chance can I ajust that so it either prompts for a saving file name, or put one on the commandline? Also, I grabbed your ramwav program from late 2005. Aren't these similar, but one converts to mp3? Last week, when I was at a local SLUG meeting, I asked about sound editors in the style of the windows mp3trim. Some1 found in freshmeet cutmp3 cut mp3 may do what I want, but so far, I think it only handles mp3s. Maybe an option to hear sounds as you are editing is just what I wanted. cut mp3 has block commands where you can save to another file. Whenever you ask any1 in linux about sound editors, they always mention audasity. Have you ever tried it? I just finished ripping a .ram and it says the output is in "grabit.mp3" I cannot find the file. I moved your script to /usr/local/bin and did a chmod755 I notice the first line begins with a number sign? Don't number signs become comments? Thanks in advance. I tell you having tr player and your program back again will make things much easier Hart