Well, forget the company. Forget the entire concept of money, economics and all that bullcrap. Long live open source!!! I use espeak with speechd-up, speech-dispatcher, and speakup. I really like it, I really enjoy software spe?ch because, I have a small laptop, it?s all self-contained, just bust this puppy out, fire it up, and, what do you know, it's th?re. It's ready to get me through any computing job I have ever asked it to do. I know that you can see some more of the boot messages with hardware speech, but software speech really is the best. -- Doug Smith: C.S.F.C. Computer Scientist For CHRIST