Well. I ran GRML live and there is no speech when I type grml swspeak and it says that there is no run command when I type run swspeak Any opinion? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@xxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp > On the topic of using Orca in a terminal window compared to speakup in > text consoles, I would say speakup is much more responsive (speakup is > more responsive than Orca in general, as an example, if using Orca and > evolution for email and the email is long (eg. if there is a lot of > untrimmed reply text), then orca is very unresponsive about keyboard > echo, where as speakup with a text based email client never has this > problem). Another observation with Orca is that in gnome-terminal, Orca > sometimes stops doing key echo, speakup in a text console never seems to > do this. To put it simply, Orca requires the GUI stuff, so relies on > more components, where as speakup is in the kernel so relies only on the > kernel (provided you are using hardware speech), so there is more > possibilities of something going wrong for Orca (although Orca seems to > be coming along now for reliability). > > From > Michael Whapples > On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 10:04 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:33:30AM +0330, Parham wrote: >> > And also another question. What if Orca doesn't support an application? >> > Can I get the CLI-based one and try it with Orca then? >> >> If orca doesn't support a gui application, and there is a cli >> alternative, then you can get that, and try running it in a xterm. I >> haven't played much with orca support in xterm windows, so I don't >> know how well that compares to running with speakup in a text console, >> out of the gui. Some on here have said orca does well in xterm >> windows, others have said that it doesn't do as well as speakup does, >> so I don't know. >> >> > And you have put me in doubts that either CLI is the same as GNOME >> > terminal. >> >> Mikel explained this well in one of his posts. Pretend you're using a >> win95/win98/winme system. In a dosbox (a command-line window running >> in the gui), you are running dos software, but are doing it in a gui, >> this is like running a xterm window inside of the gnu/linux gui. Now, >> If you went to the shutdown dialogue in our windows system, and chose >> "restart the computer in ms-dos mode", You'd be in pure dos, without >> the gui, and this is like the gnu/linux text console. Orca is >> therefore a gui screen reader that can read xterm windows for you the >> equivalent of the dosbox, along with reading the gui. Speakup is a >> screen reader for the text console, that will work only in the text >> console, the equivalent of using a screen reader in ms-dos mode in our >> windows example. I hope that makes sense between the explanation Mikel >> gave, and the one I just gave above. >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> - -- >> web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org >> gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc >> skype: gregn1 >> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >> >> - -- >> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFGkRkM7s9z/XlyUyARAiwPAJ9+VdNqGlVQv3tM9Q4BWQN1uQaJHwCfeBJ/ >> xdmUZEIatuCqoIK3wVV6zNM= >> =1Vct >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
