It's un-freaking-believable! This morning, I finally installed FC6! I used the DVD image, installing from the partition on my hard drive that I gave the mount point of /home. I got to this point partly by mistakes, but I finally got to it. (I'd tried hard drive installations before and had failed in various ways.) After rebooting, I found that I'd somehow missed Emacs and Lynx. After doing some reading and some educated guessing, I used yum to get them both. I might be missing other things I want; if so, I now at least think I can get them. I owe the GRML folks a great debt: I couldn't have done this without GRML or something like it. It was a couple of things about GRML (or maybe Debian as a whole, I don't know) and time-setting hassles with it, that prompted me to retry FC6. Still, if I stick with Fedora, I'm sure the GRML CD will continue to be a great aid from time to time. And if I return to a GRML hard drive installation, I now know I can set it up in the partition scheme I want. I of course wish I had found or been giving the solution to the mystery of the CD installation problems, but at least I finally seem to have circumvented it. Having written about the blues here, I thought it only right to write about at least my initial success. Al