> In your example there are alternatives, can you name another system that > gives me speech from the moment the OS takes control of the computer, to > the > moment it turns off? Kernel hackers just won't take this as a reason for including code that they consider not clean enough. Right. And they shouldn't. I don't think we want to be asking for "special" treatment in terms of messing up the linux kernel. But Kirk seemed to be saying that he dropped his effort to get the speakup code included with the regular kernel source because of a lack of assistance from the kernel developers. And what Michael says about how important speakup is might have an effect on that. With the maturity level linux has already achieved, it's hard to imagine what higher priorities they could have at this point.
