Whoops! We did an upgrade on linux-speakup.org or bumpy the other day and the cvs line in inetd.conf got turned off by accident. I have turned it back on again sorry about that. Also Greg you asked about updating fl.linux-speakup.org it was being updated once a day until the machine changed since then I've been updating it on an ad-hoc basis by hand. I will set the cron job back up. It is currently rsync'ing currently so should be up to date soon. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061