Hi well if there was real support for access then only accessible programs would be included in the one of a kind. Also accessibility would be enabled by default. Also orca would be the one screen reader at this time for orca from what I understand and read supports more devices working as it does with emacs servers as well as gnome speech. Just my thoughts. Jim Grimsby JR. Msn: jim.grimsby at att.net e-mail: jimgrims at pacbell.net Skype: jim.grimsby -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 4:25 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16 OK. My misunderstanding, so my apologies. I not sure I agree with only one of each category as a policy, but that certainly isn't a discriminatory policy, so it's a very different matter. Holding back yelp over a11y is certainly a good indicator, as well. But, we can't extrapolate from that that the entire desktop is vetted for a11y. Certainly not epiphany or abi-word, right? That rather makes me wonder what the basis of this "only one of a kind" policy is. However, it's clear my sense of injustice was unwarranted. Janina Justin Ekis writes: > On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 12:21:54PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Are they also prepared to have only one web browser? ONly one media > > player? ONly one word processor? Only one email client application? > If I understand correctly, they are talking about inclusion in the > official gnome.org desktop release. and that is exactly the situation. > epiphany is the web browser, totem is the media player, gedit is the > word processor and evolution is the email application. > Look at ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/desktop/2.14/2.14.2/sources > > > The day may come when there is but one screen reader on the GUI > > desktop, but I rather doubt it given that both Gnome and KDE are > > likely to remain with us. However, to proactively restrict inclusion > > while all manner of other (sometimes only half-baked) applications > > are included rankles. > They said the GNOME desktop. The GNOME desktop release seems to have > exactly one of everything and I doubt any of it is half baked. If it's > not in that directory it's not included in the official desktop. > > > Frankly, it's an insult. This kind of grudging support for > >accessibility needs to be stopped right now. In fact, it's a stretch > >to even call it "support." From my reading of the mailing lists, the > >new version of yelp was > held out of at least one and I think two desktop releases because it > had accessibility regressions. That sounds like support to me. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada--Go to http://ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
