um... Have you tried this. Get a sighted person to sit down with you, who has no idea what a kernel is, what linux is, or anything, and tell them to read the output of dmesg to you. It even sucks with grep. lol. BTW, I'm not being rude. I was sorta joking. Anyway, I'm working with a sighted person, because I can't get a reader installed to work until the kernel is working, so it will support my sound card. Thanks, ~~TheCreator~~ website: http://tysplace.shaned.net msn: compgeek134 at hotmail.com aim: st8amnd2005 skype: st8amnd127 moo coder/wizard and administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: Re: help with kernel? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > Don't you ever read any messages from the kernel? try dmesg or > /var/log/messages. The kernel messages should show any devices found > while booting. If your network code is moduler, then you will have to > run the network startup scripts by hand to see what messages get > generated. Another thing to try is recompile the kernel with the > network related options statically compiled then the startup messages > should surely reveal info about your network hardware. If the network > stuff is removable, then you'll have to stick with module loading and > the network startup scripts. I had to do similar things with sound card > support in my laptop recently because I had a hell of a time figuring > out what kind of soundcard I had. I finally Googled around with the > name and model of my Toshiba laptop to finally identify the chipset and > then I proceeded from there. It took me nearly a whole week to get that > part figured out. > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 11:29:21AM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > > I tried eth0, and greg told me that eth0 was probably my wireless card, and > > to try eth1. > > ~~TheCreator~~ > > website: > > http://tysplace.shaned.net > > msn: > > compgeek134 at hotmail.com > > aim: > > st8amnd2005 > > skype: > > st8amnd127 > > moo coder/wizard and administrator > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wil James" <wil at wilanddenise.com> > > To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" > > <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:46 AM > > Subject: RE: help with kernel? > > > > > > > Try eth0. Remembber, Linux uses the computer number scheme, 0, 1, 2, 3, > > > etc., not 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------- > > > Got a problem with your assistive technology? Let Cutting Edge Solutions > > > fix it! Visit us on the web at > > > http://www.cuttingedgesolutions.biz today! > > > ------------------ > > > E-mail/MSN Messenger: > > > wil at wilanddenise.com > > > AIM: > > > wilanddenise1 > > > Skype: > > > wiljames > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tyler Littlefield [mailto:compgeek13 at gmail.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:29 PM > > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > > Subject: help with kernel? > > > > > > Hey list, > > > I tried the eth1 thing, and it still wouldn't bring up my internet card. > > > Any idea? > > > Thanks, > > > ~~TheCreator~~ > > > website: > > > http://tysplace.shaned.net > > > msn: > > > compgeek134 at hotmail.com > > > aim: > > > st8amnd2005 > > > skype: > > > st8amnd127 > > > moo coder/wizard and administrator > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > - -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEx7HSWSjv55S0LfERA3bRAJ918Zb6uYXp++N8Q7VUX6hyAeAZpwCg7D3L > uIr0Gj78jPt/AcFo9w4lHqc= > =C7Xs > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup