I'll say it plainly, they'll have to pry my Owasys22C outa my cold dead fingers. It does exactly what I want, accessories and firmware upgrade are currently available, I'm waiting for them to call for my card info, and it's small, does everything I need it to with a no fuss no muss package I could just charge up turn on and go with probably without ever having first read the manual, but I'm a tech support geek, and don't properly feel I own something and have the right to turn it on and play with it til I've done my duty and read the manual... Nick On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:26:41 -0400, Wil James wrote: Hi Michael "There are alternatives to the Owasys which offer the same functionality (possibly more), such as a symbian phone and talks." If I remember correctly, you cannot text message with the LG4500 phones. "Maybe in your case the cost difference was greater, but for me buying a symbian phone and talks was only marginly more expensive than a Owasys (my feeling was the little extra was worth having a phone which has a large user base, should have very few bugs, and if any updates are needed can be done locally and not mean I will be without my phone for any significant time," Take into account, $199 for TALX for Cingular for a one year contract, and $99 for a two year contract. Toss in the cost of the phone, which can go over $150. yes, you go get credit for the Talx, but you have to shell out the money in advance. You're talking at least $250 to $400 just to get set up with Talx. MobileSpeak costs $399 itself. The Owasys22C costs only $200.00, less than half what you would pay for the other solutions out there. Who says a SIM card can't be sent to your address of you want updates? "plenty of extras available if I wanted something for my phone (and not just nokia originals), and the specialist bit could be removed if there was any problem caused by that leaving me with a fully functional phone)." What could you do with your phone if the specialist bit was removed? Not nearly what you could with it loaded. "While all that seems very negative about it, I will accept for some an Owasys may be the correct choice (may be you fall in that category), but equally I feel that some choose it for the wrong reason (I am struggling to find quite the wording I want, reasons such as it is what they believe is accessible to them, because they think things with a screen has been visually designed so could never be accessible)." Wrong in my case. I have a computer, and I do use Windows. It, too, has a monitor, but I don't shy away from it just because pictures are displayed on the monitor. That's about the most vain thing I've heard. "I feel I now need to try and restrain myself as I am getting close to my strong feelings, and I don't really feel this is really sufficiently on topic for this list. We may just have to agree to differ on this if anyone disagrees with what I have said." I do see your points, and they're good ones for debate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman at handsontechnologeyes.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Owasys 22C Screenless Cellphone >I will buy and use off the shelf products when possible. In our case >tthough, we needed the functionality. > > It's new, many things start out as new. Hopefully it'lll catch on and > then we'll have a product we can use that is truly embedded. > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
