I managed to do a graceful back out of 2.6.17-speakup-686 kernel a few minutes ago. The speakup-key-help module caused a fatal since it wasn't in 2.6.17 so I rebooted and hit control-c a few times and 2.6.12-1-speakup-686 came back and started talking. Having removed speakup-key-help from kernel and rebooted I tried another kernel install and was told hotplug needed to be purged. That's no problem, but busybox couldn't find something it needed so it deleted all of the kernel-2.6.17 modules and dropped me at the root prompt. After that I removed the rest of 2.6.17 and rebooted out of there. Later I'll do all of this again but run script before trying andsend the script file since maybe other things are needing fixing. Oh, udev couldn't run stating it needs 2.6.15 and maybe put a greater sign after that but I didn't find that either. I'm donating that ati monitor to smartco.org in a couple weeks and have a gateway ev910 which was a Sony Trinitron originally and got a G-Force nvidia card for it I'm installing tonight to replace all of that ati equipment. Could be I get into X after that time will tell.