Yesterday I had some sighted assistance with ubuntu 6.06 accessible version and we got as far as disk partitioning and the system insisted on doing it automatically or so it seemed. What it actually did was to go into deep space automatically and never return even after 3.5 hours of waiting. This was on a vintage 1999 dell dimension tower computer and the sighted assistance had been installing things as far back as the days when Minix was the system to try. The ubuntu disk passed integrity check with flying colors before not doing the install on a 120GB hard drive too. Grml on the other hand which also passed a disk integrity test the night before took me about five minutes to figure out how to get it talking and the speech came up so fast after post and the boot line being keyed in it was surprising. Maybe ubuntu has better luck next time I don't know we may know by November. Chuck, thanks much for the tip on the sources.list file.