Actually, you left out another possible option. I may be able to do this in a Mac. Why is it that you and Jamania paint entirely different pictures? thanks though, I am not going to give up on Linux for this until i have discovered what protocols are supported at the airmedia client. I am not a computer programmer, so writing such myself does not pay well enough for me to become one just now grin. Karen On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 09:56:50PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> >> >> Instead i want the flexibility of not having to worry, to have >> a >> standard client which, when i choose a location to visit, will perform >> consistently at that location. > > I don't mean to put you off using gnu/linux, but frankly, the way I see it > you have 2 options. One, use windows, and the many standardized closed > applications written for it, or two, write the standard gnu/linux > programs yourself. > >> does Linux not have the ability to match the standards already in >> existence? > > No, not if a non-disclosure agreement has to be signed to gain access > to the standards. I think a better question to ask is: Why is the > majority of software and specifications released today closed and proprietary? > > >>> This of course not the case there now, but I wonder why things have become >> less standardized and more protocol specific? > > Simple, the answer to that question is "money". > >> Consider by contrast, ICQ which can and I understand the same holds for >> other >> messenger programs, allow you to contact to any other user of that >> structure > > Can they? I am by no means an expert on messenger programs, but my > understanding is that what you describe is only possible because > someone went to the trouble of reverse-engineering the protocols, and > setting up gateways from one network to another. What I'm getting at > is that this didn't happen, as far as I know, because the various > messenger companies felt charitable. > >> again regardless of the client. I am unsure about Skype, although it lists >> Linux as a platform it supports. > > Yes, skype supports the gnu/linux platform, but that's only because > they chose to do so. The protocol, and the source code for skype are > both closed, and if they weren't, then I'm sure someone would have > written a command-line version of skype by now. > >> again my true goal is not to have to know the meticulous details of the >> protocol >> used, but to have a reliable tool that does the job. does that make sense? > > Yes, perfectly clear. Again, not to put you off gnu/linux, but what you're > describing is here, it's called windows, and the many applications > written for it. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFDHlbr7s9z/XlyUyARAm7gAKCnARi3Z7YpyJKKOcgW317cs9TVDwCgovpV > YPcweAOCD1TCWbJbW8S5zRI= > =ZuHV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >