> Actually that is a fine idea, but I know what the messages are in > this case. My wife is handy in these cases and generally costs > less..big grin. Well not true cause over the long-term, its more > costly to have a wife, but nevertheless she much nicer than the > card..grin. This is what I've heard but apparently the return on investment on a wife these days can be through the roof . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <n3byy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Debian question > Actually that is a fine idea, but I know what the messages are in > this case. My wife is handy in these cases and generally costs > less..big grin. Well not true cause over the long-term, its more > costly to have a wife, but nevertheless she much nicer than the > card..grin. > Actually in my case Speakup for whatever reason is having some issue > with probing the serial port and even if I try loading software > speech once the box is booted by removing the synth, I can't get > Speakup to talk, it just seems to hang while loading the module. > Speakup is not a module itself, but is built into the kernel. This is > my problem. Pretty crazy ay? > > tnx > > On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:18 AM, John G. Heim wrote: > > > This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and > > it's not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that > > there is a tool that is really helpful in debugging boot problems. > > It's a PC Weasel. > > > > You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The > > operating system recognizes it as a video card except that instead > > of video output it has a serial port. So you can connect a null- > > modem cable to it and another machine running a terminal emulator > > and get the boot messages. I use it a lot when I have a machine > > that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a bootable CD. It costs > > like $300 though. > > > > It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with > > speakup in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is > > anything different about the VGA card other than that it is an > > unrecognized type of card. So it treats it like a generic VGA > > card. If you have some kind of problem, you can plug in the null- > > modem cable and get whatever is on the screen, whether it be boot > > messages or a login prompt or whatever. > > > > > > PS: I think I have a problem similar to yours. I installed the > > speakup modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified > > 2.6.8 kernel. It won't boot unless my external doubletalk LE is > > connected and turned on. And when it does boot, I get no speech. > > There is nothing wrong with my synth. And speakup appears to know > > it's there since if it's turned off, it won't boot at all. It's > > exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's really > > happening yet. I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that > > you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge. > > > > Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't > > full. Check especially / and /boot. > > > > > > > > At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote: > > > >> Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install. > >> First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my > >> current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am > >> considering reinstalling Sarge. > >> What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install > >> over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a > >> number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before > >> upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I > >> install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of > >> course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for > >> the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I > >> have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the > >> latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not > >> correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm > >> running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel. > >> Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I > >> thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up > >> again. > >> I know wishfull thinking. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> > > > > -- > > John G. Heim > > jheim at math.wisc.edu > > 3-4189 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
