Yeah, it is clearly more helpful to send someone to a hash offset in the HOWTO, but that means I have to go look it up. Sometimes, that's more than I can do for whatever reason. jim grimsby writes: > Hi, > Then if I spoke out of turn again I must humbly apologize. My > impression was that he was having trouble getting gnopernicus working > not having trouble getting fc3 installed. > Gnopernicus does not work yet over here yet and I rtfm everything I can > find so far on getting it working. The debian package that is built in > just will not work for the life of me. I am going to check out a copy > from cvs later and see if I can make that work. Even if you think the > manual he should be reading is oveus you might want to inform him to > reread section x.x of said manual. > For example in section x of the howto it clearly states to use a server > install and to select everything everything will give you just that > everything. > For more information see the manual. > Just my thoughts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:34 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto > > > To the contrary. The RTFM, in this instance, is sitting in the subject > line of this email thread. > > >From the messages he's posted, it's very clear he hasn't read it very > carefully. > > jim grimsby writes: > > Hi, > > This is the attitude below that turns off the new user! > > Quite often the user has know idea where to rtfm as you put it. > > If you are going to refer the user to documentation it might be a good > > idea to refair them to a section of the manual explaining what ever it > > is they are asking about. > > Also not every user understands what the manual is talking about. > > As far as gnopernicus goes I do not see a manual page nor a info page > on > > it. > > It is not covered in any of the users guide I have seen so far. > > So where do we go to rtfm as you put it. > > Remember experts out there that you were a new user once. > > Also remember experts out there that in one place you are an expert in > > others you might be a novus. > > Remember experts who have decided to be teachers andsuporters of the > > program that reading manuals is good but a person needs to know what > > manual to read. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:05 AM > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto > > > > > > Hi. > > > > Startx won't beep. You really need to go learn the basics of X. > > > > Once again! RTFM > > > > Kenny > > > > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:56:16AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > I have tried running gnopernicus in personal desktop type install > > > and > > > also > > > in workstation type mode as well as server type. The personal > desktop > > and > > > workstation types failed completely. The software was put onto the > > system > > > to run, but no speech in either of those installation types. tried > > both > > > telinit 5 and startx. Startx so far doesn't work in server type > > > over > > here > > > but telinit 5 did work. I expect the custom type to do no better > > > than > > > > > personal desktop or workstation. The startx command never gets to > > > the > > > short beep on any of these installation types. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC > http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different > problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
