I've managed to mess up the permissions on mailman as a result of a typo. who should own /var/log/mailman? I am getting the error below. st recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 554, in ? main() File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 366, in main check_for_site_list() File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 276, in check_for_site_list sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 128, in __init__ self.Load() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 593, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 559, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck' invoke-rc.d: initscript mailman, action "start" failed. interfree:/# __________ NOD32 1.1041 (20050330) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Best regards, Rejean mailto:rejean at interfree.ca