Begging your pardon, Gene, but you are wrong. An initrd loaded speakup speaks the vast majority of the boot process, so the distinction between initrd and a static compile is minimal. It is there before the file systems are loaded, and it's valuable on its own Gene Collins writes: > Hi Janina. What you are talking about with the initrd is not the same > thing as hearing all the bootup messages. No matter how early you load > speakup in the boot process, it will not speak all the boot messages as > it will if it it is built in to the kernel. Besides, this is an > installation and configuration issue. In addition, how you handle > initrd stuff varies from distro to distro. > > In other words, this was not an oversite on my part. > > Thanks for the feedback. > > Gene > > >Hi, Gene: > > > >I'm sorry, but there's one thing I wish I had caught sooner. I do think > >it would be very helpful to make an additional edit to cover the > >situation, because we're continuing to run into folks who get this piece > >wrong. > > > >It has to do with getting speech during boot when the Speakup drivers, > >including speakupmain, are compiled as kernels. > > > >The following statement from Section 7 is not correct: > > > >7. Loading modules > > > >As mentioned earlier, Speakup can either be completely compiled into the > >kernel, with the exception of the help module, or it can be compiled as > >a series of modules that can be loaded after the system is booted up. > >When compiled as modules, Speakup will not be able to speak the bootup > >messages, and the modules can only be loaded after the file systems have > >been checked and mounted. > > > >n fact, the modularized Speakup can be made to talk if properly > >initialized. With the Speakup Modified Fedora, the method is to create > >an initrd.img in order to get speech as early in the process as > >possible. I would expect the same procedure would work with other > >distros, though the steps for creating an initrd may be different than > >those we describe in the Speakup Modified HOWTO. > > > >So, you should point out that this is possible, and it's an installation > >and configuration issue. > > > >Lastly, I would think it appropriate to mention this in Section 1, > >Starting Speakup, because it would seem to change a bit the guidance you > >provide when you say: > > > >> > >> If your kernel has been compiled with Speakup, and has no default > >> synthesizer set, or you would like to use a different synthesizer than > >> the default one, then you may issue the following command at the boot > >> prompt of your boot loader. > >> > >> linux speakup_synth=ltlk > > > > > >Indeed, this will not work for modules--at least in some circumstances. > >However, as I've already pointed out, a correctly provided initrd will > >provide speech during the boot--there's just no opportunity to choose a > >different synth for that spoken output. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.