Well, Jim, thanks for your comments, first of all, what interests me about Oralux is that maybe finally I can run YASR with dectalk speech. You see, even with the help of Mike, an author of YASR we could not get it working with dec-pc, so maybe the software dectalk would povide me a chance to try it, also, I want to try on my laptop which only has Jaws speech. As to your other question, Karl has Jupiter which can run directly from a CD. Hart