Plenty of trouble for going about things haphazardly, though. So, you had a working sound installation but muddled it up because you heard some other technology approach was better? * I wouldn't say it's muddled up, as it is working as an FTP server, which was my original intent. And after enquiring about where to get Debian on this list, I was pointed to a site, and I was of the understanding that it was the latest & greatest. I had not imagined that sound would be left out of any versions. I did have speakers hooked up and had expected to at least test sound files that I had on my server. But again, I didn't think about that much until I decided to put in Emacspeak. I may just format this drive & start over. I can at least say I learned from all this. Glenn OK, nothing wrong with chasing greener pastures, either. But, if you start in the middle, and listen to just anybody on the net, you aren't very likely to succeed. I guess I'm still unclear why you would feel so frustrated you would want to give up on Linux. After all, it hasn't failed you. If anyone has failed you, you've failed yourself with questionable approaches and certainly with inconsistent expectations. What would I do were I you at this point? I guess I'd look around for a 2.6 kernel with Speakup already in it. Don't know if the Debian community yet provides such a thing, but alsa comes by default with 2.6 kernels. You want to go piece by piece? No problem. Glenn at home writes: > You are right there, > But one thing leads to another. > I still maintain that I don't want too much on here, at least as far as > packages. > But this all started out because I was starting to install Emacspeak, and > it > appeared that I should have sound working first. > So I do want a couple utilities, as I just installed Lynx, so I can get > utilities for making it work easier, as opposed to constantly copying it > over from my XP box via the network, and then moving them in Debian. > But even at this point, if it all came crashing down, I would not be > devistated, but who knows, next year I may have built up more stuff on > here. > > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net> > To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin at cableone.net> > Cc: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: frustrated > > > iAnd, is this same machine that you only wanted to run an ftp server on > last month? So, you chose Debian because Fedora would require you to > download 4 iso images? > > Didn't this start out as "which distro is better?' > > What do you say about that now, half a month later? > > Glenn at home writes: > > When I looked into it, both on this list, and on the www, there was > > little > > to no mention of oss, and it began to sound like Alsa is better. > > Glenn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net> > > To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin at cableone.net>; "Speakup is a screen > > review > > system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:07 PM > > Subject: Re: frustrated > > > > > > OK. So we've established you have the OSS drivers. > > > > Now, the other question in my last email--there were two questions. > > > > Why alsa particularly? Why isn't OSS good enough? > > > > Glenn at home writes: > > > I got 3 lines that refer to emu10k1 > > > input > > > sound > > > midi > > > and the midi line is the only one with a Y at the end, the other 2 > > > have > > > an > > > M. > > > Glenn > > > Try this: > > > > > > grep -i emu10k [config.filename] > > > > > > If that comes back with "yes" or "m", then your kernel comes with the > > > OSS drivers, not ALSA, which would be expected in 2.4 kernels. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Chair > > Accessibility Workgroup > > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > > > janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > > If Linux doesn't solve your computing problem, you need a different > > problem. > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > If Linux doesn't solve your computing problem, you need a different > problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 If Linux doesn't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup