Hi Tyler -- hmm -- that's weird -- actually have you tried straight yahoo rather than yahoogroups? Or do you mean the same thing? Anyway, on yahoo, if you have the pop3 access (which is what I assume you want) you can turn off spam blocking from the mail options page from one of the many links under mail options -- I think it is security or filtering or something. I think the package is called "mailPlus" or something like that -- it is the cheapest level of paid yahoo mail service which provides pop access and also reading mail from up to 5 accounts plus smtp for reading mail from yahoo and 2 gigs of storage, but you don't have a domain or anything else. Anyway, I got it a long time ago and frankly hardly ever use it as it doesn't do all i want, but I don't like yahoo for a couple of reasons anyway and so am hesitant to upgrade my service, although you do get some interesting stuff, but they assume you want to run a business with that option. I do get a tiny bit of email there so still read from it, but you know if I set it to read from my home email address on roadrunner, then I can't just connect to yahoo directly and read my home email -- I have to first go to the yahoo site and log in and mechanically read my home email then log off and go back to outlook express and then connect and read from yahoo, which is ridiculous. Yhaoo doesn't check periodically. But that would not be a great idea either -- I was just testing out what it would do. Take care. Oh, and your new email addy is interesting -- I'm trying to figure out how you got "tspivey" -- well the t is understandable... Oh, and canadian dollars last I checked were less in value than the US dollars, or has that changed lately? In any case, when you say $29 in the US but $50 in canadian, that sounds turned around. Sorry if I'm confused. Perhaps I should go to the site and see. Take care. --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: OT: Email services Does anyone have any suggestions on inexpensive, reliable email services? I want an email address that will stay with me if I change isps, or have no internet access at home (which is the case now). I've gone through about 5 free email services that just don't fit the bill - block certain addresses, (e.g. yahoogroups), flaky smtp servers (or none at all!) or total unreliability. Something that costs $29.95/year (e.g. Runbox) seems promising until you convert to Canadian dollars, which will run up to about $50. This one seems to work, but I don't want to find myself changing emails weekly. Thanks in advance, Tyler _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup