On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, randy turner wrote: > well i have to run get-mail first, > then pine will send the message like it should > does this give any one any ideas? It's a feature of your ISP which forces you to authenticate with your POP server, and then, it will let you send mail for a limited time. I think it's some sort of anti-spam measure, and unfortunately, there's not much you can do about it except always check your mail right before you send, or get another ISP.