hi, I believe I asked this than went out of town, so I will try again. a while back some discussed the dtexp_us file which is on the gw micro site and is a later firmware for the dec-express. I must have missed something in the suggestions here, as for some reason while the install program created the dtexp directory and copied the files, they did not unpack completely, or some of them did not. also, it did not find and test the dec express as the users guide explained would happen. in fact basicly it just created the directory and copied the files over. what i did was to take the dtexp_us.exe file and unpack it onto a floppy disc, and use that disc to install the software. what have i missed? can this actually be done with a floppy, or is larger space needed? feel free to write off list if desired, as I know some have been successful with this. Thanks, Karen